|Peugeot 308 1.2 Puretech - Puretech 1.2 Engine Failure - Meteiro|
My wife's 308 is currently in a very poorly state at our dealer, following a compression problem in middle cylinder that means new engine is needed (diagnostics continue...)
Car is not yet 4 years old and under 50k, always serviced at same main dealer and still has a little extended warranty left, so am hopeful we'll get the issue resolved. The issue is that my wife has lost all faith in the vehicle (we've had a lot of problems over the years) and is pushing me to find a replacement. I sympathise with her, but without adding a lot of money that's either at a much higher mileage, much older, or more likely both (plus we wouldn't know what we'd be inheriting from the last owner).
I'd look at a 59/60 plate Civic 1.8 and put it through a major service if we do change.
Assuming a new engine is fitted, would you keep it or get rid of it?
My main concern is that in only a couple of years we'll be right back here with another engine failure but out of warranty and, effectively, up a certain creek without a certain paddle.
|Peugeot 308 1.2 Puretech - Puretech 1.2 Engine Failure - thunderbird|
Just as you say. Changing a 4 year old car that has hopefully been fixed for a 9 year old unknown car would be total madness.
The fan boys on here will no doubt tell you that these Hondas are bullet proof but in 9 years who knows what horrors are hidden. At this age cars are normally sold because they are becoming money pits.
Hold onto the Peugeot. You still have warranty left so use it after its been fixed and see if its reliable. If it is keep it, if its not you should have saved some money and with the help of a loan get a new car.
|Peugeot 308 1.2 Puretech - Puretech 1.2 Engine Failure - SLO76|
| First failure I’ve heard of with this engine so maybe they’re not as good as we thought. As long as it has a full main dealer history and it has an extended manufacturer warranty then you should be fine. Let them fix it and keep it until you can afford to upgrade. It makes no sense to downgrade to a much older car. |
If you can put some money in the pot then a used Honda Civic, Toyota Auris or Mazda 3 petrol would make a good choice but again I’d only buy if you’ve the money to get a newer example. When you’re downgrading at a dealer you tend to get a poor part exchange price and 308’s are already terrible at holding their value.
|Peugeot 308 1.2 Puretech - Puretech 1.2 Engine Failure - craig-pd130|
Reports of spark plugs breaking and causing these problems, noted here from earlier this year:
|Peugeot 308 1.2 Puretech - Puretech 1.2 Engine Failure - Avant|
I can understand your wife losing faith in this car. Best to flog it - but only when you've saved enough to buy something younger rather than older. A new-shape Civic perhaps - that's 2017 onwards: depending on the use she puts it to, the 1.0 engine might well be enough.
|Peugeot 308 1.2 Puretech - Puretech 1.2 Engine Failure - barney100|
Seems to me the engine size to car size is smaller in many cases. I was given an XC90 while my V70 was fixed. The new XC90 had a 2 litre diesel and V70 has a 2.4 diesel. The XC90 didn't hang about but it's an awfully large car for 2 litres, it must put strain on the unit. Maybe modern engines are just better?
|Peugeot 308 1.2 Puretech - Puretech 1.2 Engine Failure - Avant|
"I also don’t think it’s good value at £16k either."
Nor do I. The trouble with apparent bargains like this is that they happen either with running-out models (like this 2008) or cars that were never very saleable in the first place. The flipside will be only too apparent if you come to sell it (but good vaue if you intend to keep it long-term).
A new Q2 is better value than it looks as most Audis hold their value. I got my Q2's predecessor, a Volvo V60, for £7,000 under list - but after two years it had lost 50% of purchase price, 60% of list.
|Peugeot 308 1.2 Puretech - Puretech 1.2 Engine Failure - Jon.m|
Just to add to this thread. There appears to be a problem that's beginning to manifest itself with the cambelts running in oil. Today I finally got to the bottom of this on the 308 Facebook page. A Peugeot technician stated that the engine has been subject to three cambelt revisions. Gen1 is a smooth black belt that degrades and cracks across the width throughout the whole belt. Gen2 revision has a textured finish and would have been fine had it not been for the fact that it is slightly wide therefore causing it to fray at the sides with debris blocking the oilways. The engine is currently being fitted with a Gen3 belt with no known problems yet. The technician implied that PSA know about this and are changing them under warranty or possibly contributing to the cost out of warranty.
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While the diesels tend to be more reliable than the petrols, the Puretech and VTi petrol engines fitted to the Citroen DS3 are fairly reliable units providing they are looked after properly from a servicing perspective, and preventative maintenance is performed on-time.Who makes the 1.2 PureTech engine? ›
On the European market, the PureTech 1.2L 3-cylinder modular family represents a third of PSA Group's total petrol and Diesel engines.What does PureTech mean? ›
PureTech is the Brand name for Peugeot's new range of 3-cylinder petrol units, incorporating the efficiency with 1.0-litre and 1.2-litre naturally-aspirated, and 1.2-litre turbocharged. The PureTech engine range now powers the 108, 208, 2008, 308, 3008 & 5008 models.How long will a Peugeot engine last? ›
A Heavy Duty diesel engine as found on Class 8 truck routinely last between 600,000 and 1,200,000 miles (at full load) before an overhaul. A medium-duty diesel engine found in class 4, 5 and 6 trucks has a lower life expectancy of 450,000 to 700,000 miles.Why did Peugeot fail in the US? ›
Peugeot exited the U.S. market in 1991, driven out by a recession, slumping sales and the rising costs of U.S. regulations. The company had sold just 4,292 cars in 1990, nearly 80 percent below 1984 levels.How many miles will a Peugeot 308 last? ›
It'll go on sale in 2023 with a maximum range of 250 miles – which is more than enough for the sorts of journeys in which the PHEV would be at its most efficient. With the soaring cost of petrol, it should also be cheaper to fuel.Where are Peugeot engines made? ›
The engines are assembled in production plants in the cities of Trémery and Douvrin for PSA in France, at the Ford Dagenham plant in the UK, and Volvo Engine Plant in Skövde Sweden when Volvo was still under Ford ownership.Is a 1.2 PureTech engine a turbo? ›
The arrival of the new PureTech three-cylinder 1.2 litre turbo petrol engine represents a true technological step forward. Its compact size, reduced weight and innovative low-friction materials are key factors in the virtuous search for performance and economy.Who makes engines for Peugeot? ›
The PSA Group (Peugeot/Citroën) sells a variety of automobile engines. Later HDi engines are built as part of a joint-venture with Ford Motor Company.Do Peugeot make Ford engines? ›
The inline-four engines are sold under the DuraTorq TDCi name by Ford, and as the HDi by Citroën and Peugeot. and dCi engine by Renault. and Mazda also uses the Ford-made DLD engine in the Mazda2 and the Mazda3.
The PureTech 3-cylinder turbocharged engine reduces fuel consumption and emissions of CO2 by up to 21% compared to the 4 cylinder engine of the same power.
It is designed in cooperation between BMW and the PSA group (Peugeot and Citroen group), but they are both using the same engines. The BMW designation for this engine is N13, N14 and N18. It uses BMW's technology for variable valve-timing.What are the common problems with Peugeot 308? ›
- Stuck in 5th Gear. Problem: ...
- Overheating Engine. Problem: ...
- Oil Warning Light. Problem: ...
- Starting problems. Problem: ...
- Car pulling to the left side. Problem: ...
- Anti pollution warning message. Problem: ...
- Turbo problems. Problem: ...
- Fan Constantly Running. Problem:
In its 2021 owners' survey, What Car? rated the Peugeot 308 as the second-worst car on its list of the most reliable family cars up to five years old, with only the SEAT Leon diesel scoring worse.Are Peugeot engines good? ›
It's an impressive claim, especially when you consider that it means 23% of all Peugeot cars reported zero faults. And that means almost a quarter of all Peugeot cars are, in effect, completely faultless. Throughout the study, it was found that the industry average stood at 119 faults per 100 cars.What is the most unreliable car brand in America? ›
Peugeot was the last French automaker to sell cars in the U.S., but it hasn't operated dealers here since the late 1980s. Citroën puttered out of the American market in 1974. Both French brands have relatively strong footholds in Europe and South America, and Peugeots are even sold as far north as Mexico.What is the most trouble free car in America? ›
- 2023 Mini Cooper.
- 2022 Toyota Prius.
- 2022 Mazda MX-5 Miata.
- 2023 Lincoln Corsair.
- 2023 Toyota Corolla.
- 2023 Subaru Crosstrek.
- 2023 BMW 3 Series.
- 2022 Toyota Prius Prime.
An experienced mechanic would recommend five to six years, 60,000-70,000 miles, at most.Is there a recall on Peugeot 308? ›
There are currently 30 safety recalls out on the Peugeot 308. To find out whether your car is affected, you'll need to find your car's VIN number. Defect: Engine management software issue could cause damage to the diesel particulate filter.
The engine range includes a petrol 1.6 16V 110 hp and 143 hp 2.0 16V. The trunk has a volume of 502 liters.What does Peugeot mean in English? ›
Peugeot. A surname from French. A French manufacturer of cars. coordinate terms ▼
PEUGEOT's new identity asserts its positioning as an innovative high-end generalist brand.Is a 1.2 litre turbo engine good? ›
1.0-1.2 Litre Engines
They aren't very powerful, but they can still be quite nippy if the car doesn't weigh very much. You'll get a good fuel economy out of them, as the smaller capacity means less fuel is used.
1.0 petrol variant is turbocharged and best in the class. 1.2 petrol is little bit underpowered. Than 1.2 lte the 1. ltre is equipped with turbo there you will get the torque and push with the mileage also.What is the difference between a 1.2 and 1.5 engine? ›
The 1.2-litre TDI engine was a 3 cylinder engine which generated max 75PS of power and 180Nm of max torque. In comparison, the new Polo 1.5 TDI engine is a 4 cylinder engine which churns out 90PS of max power and 230Nm of max torque.Is Peugeot made by Toyota? ›
The resulting company is called TPCA (Toyota Peugeot Citroën Automobile). It manufactures the Citroën C1, Peugeot 108 and Toyota Aygo. This joint venture was ended in late 2020 and has been takeover by Toyota in early 2021.Who made the 308 engine? ›
GMH used some of the ideas and parts for this engine and produced the higher performance 308 engine (RPO L34) for use in the Torana XU2 for Group C racing homologation.Which brand has the most reliable engine? ›
- 8 Honda B Series Engine.
- 7 Honda K Series Engine.
- 6 Lexus 1UZFE Engine.
- 5 Lexus 2UR-GSE Engine.
- 4 BMW M57 Diesel Engine.
- 3 Nissan RB26DETT Engine.
- 2 Mercedes-Benz OM617 Diesel Engine.
- 1 General Motors LS Engine.
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Instead of developing a unique and expensive engine for themselves, Volvo saved the money from developing costs and bought the engine from PSA (Peugeot-Citroën) and made it better in terms of reliability and performance. This gave them an edge in terms of cost-cutting.Is Peugeot owned by Stellantis? ›
Stellantis North America
Stellantis combines Groupe PSA's Peugeot, Citroen, DS Automobiles, Opel and Vauxhall with FCA's Fiat, Chrysler, Dodge, Ram, Jeep, Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Lancia, and Maserati.
In India this comparison is mostly done in petrol variant. Usually 1.0 litre turbo engine is a 3 cylinder engine & 1.2 litre engine is a 4 cylinder engine. “ Both the engines are good ” , it just depends on your usages.What is Peugeot PureTech? ›
The family of Peugeot PureTech 3-cylinder petrol engines is a concentration of efficiency and cutting-edge technology. Voted engine of the year in its category in 2015, 2016 and 2017, this family powers the entire Peugeot range from 108 to 5008.
Yes, a turbocharged engine is better than a normal engine in terms of performance and efficiency. A lower capacity turbo engine can produce the same amount of power as a higher capacity NA engine.Which BMW engine is made by Peugeot? ›
Prince is the codename for a family of straight-four 16-valve all-aluminium gasoline engines with variable valve lift and variable valve timing developed by PSA Peugeot Citroën and BMW.Does a Peugeot have a timing belt or chain? ›
All the current Peugeot Partner engines use timing belts.Which country owns Peugeot? ›
The flagship of French industry, PEUGEOT is one of the foremost pioneers on the international automotive front. In just over two centuries, the brand's business has evolved around the principles of passion and technological innovation.Do Peugeots hold their value? ›
Peugeot were found to hold their value the least after the firm looked at 150 of the most popular cars to work out which cars represent a bargain second-hand - and which ones have barely moved in price.Why does my Peugeot 308 go into limp mode? ›
Likely causes for your car entering limp mode range from faulty engine sensors and wiring to low fluid levels, such as engine coolant and oil.
Timing Belts Peugeot 308
. Please note that it is strongly recommended to change the water pump and timing belt tensioner at the same time as the belt itself."
While the diesels tend to be more reliable than the petrols, the Puretech and VTi petrol engines fitted to the Citroen DS3 are fairly reliable units providing they are looked after properly from a servicing perspective, and preventative maintenance is performed on-time.What is the best engine Peugeot 308? ›
Peugeot 308 SW petrol engines
The best petrol engine is the 1.2-litre PureTech 130, which produces 129bhp despite its small size. It's a smooth and quiet engine that's actually rather good fun to drive on the open road.
Peugeot's reliable reputation is based on various different factors, and lots of them revolve around the affordability of the brand. The smaller models of Peugeot especially tend to be regarded as both affordable and highly reliable, particularly models such as the Peugeot 107, 206, and 308.What is the recall on Citroen 1.2 PureTech engine? ›
The cause of the recall was premature engine oil degradation leading to timing belt wear. By breaking, the latter clogs the pump, which explains the loss of efficiency of the braking system and the accidents recorded.Is a 1.2 PureTech a turbo? ›
The arrival of the new PureTech three-cylinder 1.2 litre turbo petrol engine represents a true technological step forward. Its compact size, reduced weight and innovative low-friction materials are key factors in the virtuous search for performance and economy.Is Peugeot cheap to repair? ›
Peugeot and Toyota cars have been identified as the most expensive to repair, according to internal data from WhoCanFixMyCar.com.