Question - Best Infant Seat fit in 2010 Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen TDI (2022)

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  • Start dateMay 29, 2011

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laurenandalex

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  • May 29, 2011
  • #1

We drive a 2010 Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen TDI.

Our daughter is almost 3, ERF at 29-30 lbs and 39-40 inches. We currently have a Britax Marathon installed, rear facing, outboard with latch, behind the driver's seat.

We are expecting and need to add an infant seat. We purchased a Graco Snugride 30. We tried to install it both in the center position with seatbelt and outboard-passenger side with belt and LATCH. We experienced a great deal of lateral motion in all seating positions. In addition, the base overhangs the seat depth by several inches. I made an appointment at the local police station (as we have done with all of our other seats) for a safety check (but this check was more of an install).

The techs recommended placement of seat with LATCH, outboard, passenger side. And also utilized shelf liner to add grip, given our leather seats. (granted the piece they used was too small to be effective and we will try again with a larger piece of grip) They said that there was not enough 'give' in the center seating position to get a tight install. Plus the seat overlapped with the Marathon in a way that they thought was not acceptable in the center position. With their install, the seat felt tight and secure at first, especially if you attempted a "wiggle" close to the LATCH anchors. However, at the first stoplight after pulling away, I reached back and was able to swing the seat back and forth at least 2-4 inches laterally.

I am not comfortable with the install given the lateral motion.

Any recommendations for a better install for the Graco in the VW Jetta SW?
Or any recommendations for a different infant seat?

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wendytthomas

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  • May 29, 2011
  • #2

Where were you swinging the seat? At the belt path, or at the front of the seat?

I've never had shelf liner be useful. If the seat is secure it will be sure, even without shelf liner. If it's not secure with the shelf liner, then it's still not going to be sure during a crash. Yes, leather will have a bit of a wiggle no matter what. It's smooth leather against smooth plastic. You're lacking the traction cloth offers. No biggie. You need less than 1" of movement at the belt path. Not necessarily a rock solid install.

Do you know how to install the seat? Did they show you how to do it? Or just install it for you? Were your hands the last ones on the seat, as they should have been?

Wendy

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  • May 30, 2011
  • #3

Thanks for your reply.

The swing was happening at the front of the seat. But, it just felt too "wiggly" to be safe.

I understand the slip factor of the leather. And that less than 1" of movement at the belt path is considered "safe". But, it just felt so "loose"!

There is no question we have been spoiled by the rock solid install of our Britax. My husband always remarks that "it is like part of the car"! Between the LATCH and the tether, it just feels so secure.

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I do know how to install the seat. And had attempted an install at home before seeking help from the police station. We had a Graco Snugridge 22 with our first. I take car seats very seriously and consider myself an advocate for safe installation and use. As I have visited the station multiple times with multiple seats in multiple cars, we have a relationship--so I believe we all felt comfortable with their installation of the seat for me!

Ultimately, I am just not feeling convinced that this is the best seat for our car. And I want to feel secure in both the safety of the seat and the installation before this little guy makes his appearance in a few weeks. We are certainly committed to buying another seat or changing configurations (short of turning our 3 year old FF) if necessary!

wendytthomas

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  • May 30, 2011
  • #4

Well, not sure what to tell you. An infant seat, since it is untethered, will wiggle at the head often, and that's ok. It honesty is. If you want antirebound, try the Britax Chaperone, but I don't know that it would fit in your car since you have another carseat in there (I've put one in a Jetta, and it NEEDED the middle to fit). Another option is the Chicco Keyfit with the seatbelt, which causes a lot less movement at the front of the carseat. The Combi Shuttle also has antirebound.

Also, the seat only needs 80% of the base to be on the car's seat to be safe. If you have that, it's safe.

For what it's worth, though, I think you have a fine installation (just get rid of the shelf liner) and a fine seat, and it's perfectly safe. I'd put my child in it, by the sound of it.

Wendy

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lanwenyi

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  • May 30, 2011
  • #5

We have a 2011 VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI and a Maxi-Cosi Mico. It fits fine in any position, but it does move at the head, just like your Graco. Take out the shelf-liner, make sure there is less than 1" movement at the beltpath (and an install independent of the MA, if installed in the middle), and I suspect yours is fine.

That said, if movement at the head bothers you can try a Combi Shuttle 33 or Britax Chaperone b/c they have an anti-rebound bar (ARB). However, since I don't own either, I can't say how well they'll fit in the car.

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If you are okay w/ skipping the infant seat and using a convertible from birth, a TFP fits well from birth, fits in a Sportwagen TDI, and has an ARB.

If you want a compatible stroller for occasional use, but are otherwise okay w/ starting in a convertible, you could try a Combi Coccorro. It has a rfing tether, fits newbies really well, and is super narrow (so should fit rfing in the middle next to a MA). The Flash stroller makes it work as a "travel system", but I wouldn't want to be removing it and re-installing it all the time.

You could also go w/ another MA70. You would prob need to buy the sep infant insert cushion-thing to make it fit a newbie, but you know you like the install. However, I'm sure you would have to install it outboard. There is no way that 2 Britax Convertibles are going to fit side-by-side in this car.

I know it's hard to get installs you like. FWIW, we each have our own carseat "pet-peeves". I don't like infant "buckets" b/c the bases always make me nervous, so we start w/ convertibles. Your issue is movement at the head. While I don't have that issue, I do understand. GL!

ETA: the infant cushion-thingy I'm talking abt is the official one from Britax. I'm not sure what it is called, maybe the infant "wedge"? HTH

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  • Jun 1, 2011
  • #6

Thank you for your replies, advice, and suggestions.

Here is where we are. Although I understand the reality of a little wiggle at the head--the swinging we were getting from the Snugride was just not acceptable. In addition, it took both techs at the Police Station cranking on the LATCH to even get it snug at the belt path. And I just don't know how comfortable I feel with a seat that is THAT difficult to install correctly in our car. Not that we uninstall/transfer car seats often--but, that I do like to reinstall from time to time to ensure a good install, etc. A good fit should not be impossible!

While I am comfortable with a convertible from the start, my husband is not. In addition, we live in the city and street park in front of our home. I believe having the baby already in his seat before we exit the house will ensure safe transitions for the first few months. By the time our daughter is 3.5 or 4, I think I will feel more comfortable loading two in to the car given the variables of our street!

So...on your suggestions, I have borrowed a Britax Chaperone and a Snugride 22 (thinking maybe the larger seat is part of the problem, not the Snugride itself) from friends. In addition, I am picking up a Chicco KeyFit from another friend tomorrow. It will be the great Infant Seat Test of 2011.

I did play with the Britax today. And I was pleased with the solidness of the install. I do love Britax!! However, I believe it will need to be outboard...though I briefly played with it in the center seating position (might justify buying our daughter a Radian--however, who knows if it would rearface outboard in the Jetta) which forces the passenger seat forward quite a bit. And then, as I have been skimming these boards, I have noted varying concern about interference with the front airbag sensors if a car seat touches the front seat. We can sacrifice some front seat legroom as we are not tall--but, as this is our only car at the moment--we often have two adults in the front seat!

Can someone further explain this concern as well as the best practice recommendations?
Is it an issue with any car? or just certain makes, models, model years, airbags types, etc?

  • Jun 1, 2011
  • #7

It should not take two techs tugging at the LATCH. I'm a small adult and I've never ever had a problem installing a Snugride. Did they pull the LATCH tail back through the belt path and add weight and pull that way? If it took two of them either the seat was defective, or they had no idea what they were doing. Heck, I don't even have to sit in it. I use one hand to pull tight and one hand to add weight. And I'm a size four/six.

The issue with the airbags across the board since about 2005. The advanced airbags in the passenger seat means they detect when a person over X pounds is sitting in the seat. My car is 60, so let's go with that. They say that if someone less than 60 pounds is in the seat, or it's empty, don't set off the airbag. It's either a small child or empty. Now, if you have a 20 pound infant seat and a 20 pound child pushing on the back (it may not even take that much, my car has warnings against kicking the backseat, and I've seen cars that have hooks, but only for less than 10 pounds), then instead of setting the sensor in the seat at zero pounds, it's at -40. If a 100 pound adult gets in, the airbag may not go off. Obviously mine may be more sensitive if it doesn't allow kicking at all, or resting feet or luggage against the front seat.

So if you have two adults in the front all the time, and two kids in the back, and the infant seat pushes you so far forward you can't sit, then it's incompatible. I would be shocked if the Britax fits. The Chicco is a better bet. You may also want to try for a baseless install, though that defeats the purpose of the infant seat and you may as well go for a convertible. Try out different configurations, see if you can get one of the seats in the middle and the other behind a front seat. Hard to say which front seat, though. The driver to avoid the passenger, or the passenger to ensure the driver is comfortable.

Wendy

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JerseyGirl'sMama

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I like your commitment to carseat safety. Kudos to you for caring enough to get it right! Question - Best Infant Seat fit in 2010 Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen TDI (5)

Wendy has already given you awesome advice. I just wanted to second her advice. She really knows her stuff a's you can see by her reputation level. Question - Best Infant Seat fit in 2010 Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen TDI (6)

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  • Jun 2, 2011
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THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! You ALL have been most helpful. And Wendy, I truly appreciate your time and expertise.

The dilemma was solved by the Chicco KeyFit30. Oh my! What an install! And it beat the Chaperone hands down when it comes to "compactness" and fit behind the passenger seat. We did not have to move the passenger seat *at all* from its usual riding position. Safe airbags for all occupants, safe car seat for the little guy, his soon to be big sis doesn't have to give up her sidewalk side position for our city street parking! So now I feel as though I have an install that will preserve the safety (and sanity, now!) of every member of the family!

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